396: Margaret Klein Salamon, part 2: Political or Personal or Political and Personal

October 14, 2020 by Joshua
in Podcast

My goal in this podcast is to bring leaders from many fields and share what made them effective. I believe sustainability and stewardship would benefit from learning more effective leadership. A goal with each guest is to feature them. Everyone is unique. Everyone brings something we can learn from.

Sometimes I don’t achieve my goal. Sometimes a guest and I end up talking at cross purposes, which I think happened this time, meaning I didn’t do justice to the guest. This time I started off exploring Margaret’s views and experiences but part way through misunderstanding arose and I don’t think I gave Margaret the chance to shine that she deserved. I apologize to her. I hope I didn’t distract from her work. You’ll hear at the beginning how her book led me to reflect, introspect, and act so I recommend it.

If I messed up, I welcome constructive criticism. I hope she looks all the better for the conversation even if I don’t. I hope you, the listener, enjoy hearing the conversation and get value from each of our perspectives. I think I captured the two purposes at the end—that I had trouble seeing her view that getting distracted from political change would not achieve the effects we need to turn things around and that she didn’t see my view that personal action augments the political, not distracts.

I hope each of us surprises the other by succeeding more in ways the other couldn’t have conceived of, illuminating the other’s world and expanding the other’s view to where each of us becomes more effective than we would have otherwise.

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