Martin and I continued our conversation about America, its problems, and what we can do about it. I misread him that he had a specific plan, but that didn’t stop him from clarifying and continuing more of what we spoke about last time.

We talked about education, arts, voting, government, the future, the past, competition, and more.

Listen for reflections from a master communicator who has worked with people at the forefront of American business for decades.

I mentioned before that I was prompted to reconnect with Martin after almost two decades while seeing him give a webinar online. I took the liberty of capturing the screen when he showed this slide. I hope you can tell why it made me connect. Creativity is up there with curiosity for me.

Here’s the conversation:

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