761: Dave Kerpen, part 2: Joyfully Skipping Donuts
This conversation was brief, but covered the important points, particularly the challenges of changing habits. Dave didn’t do everything he intended, though I thought he succeeded more than he did. The goal of the Spodek Method isn’t to make big changes, though some do, but to share and act on intrinsic motivation relevant to nature and the environment. Just accessing intrinsic motivation at all can be a challenge in a world where most messages on the environment are based in lecture and telling people what to do.
Yet we care about the environment. If we expect to be told what to or lectured at, we hold back from sharing. Dave seemed partly to hold back, but he also works in leadership so overcame the inhibition and shared.
He didn’t do as much as he hoped, but the parts he did he enjoyed. If you’re concerned about acting yourself, you might appreciate Dave’s experience. Starting new habits or even just acting once or twice for the first time can be challenging. When done for intrinsic motivation, you’ll feel meaning and want to continue. Dave also skipped some Dunkin’ Donuts, which seems like a big success to me.
He ends considering taking on a bigger challenge affecting others. We’ll see in a future episode if it connects.