643: Gaya Herrington, part 3: Five Insights for Avoiding Global Collapse
At the end of our second conversation, Gaya was finishing her book, leaving KPMG, and soon starting at Schneider Electric. The book just came out, Five Insights for Avoiding Global Collapse: What a 50-Year-Old Model of the World Taught Me About a Way Forward for Us Today (a free download), and she’s worked at Schneider a while.
We talk about the book, how the world has tracked two of the Limits to Growth simulations, and how working at Schneider is.
The book treats how to respond to a complex, systemic problem, which is different from how to respond to a simple, linear problem. I consider the advice right on, rare to find, even among environmentalists. To change a system, some of the best levers are its goals and values. Don’t change them and you retain the system you’re trying to change, which most people are doing.
Gaya’s views are a breath of fresh air that give direction for people who want to lead to act.