After resetting during conversation 1.5, Caspar returns with his son and wife—Columbus and Nicola—for a touching proper second episode.

The three of them approached the challenge as a family, though you’ll hear how Columbus led his parents in many ways. It sounds like he had tried for some time to guide his parents. Now that they committed to act, they heard him more. I see this trend a lot when people commit—that they realize they could have acted earlier and that acting brings them closer to relatives and others in their communities.

Columbus steals the show, having studied, cared, and acted on the environment, patiently bringing his parents along. I hope all the parents who tell me that kids make acting environmentally harder. In the Craven family, the child is leading the adults.

We talk about sailing, their having sailed around the world, gardening, school, and more. They sound to me like they’re just getting started.

Remember how enthusiastic Caspar sounded at the end of the first episode?

He made doing his commitment sound so easy. Well, sometimes it is, but not always. He emailed me to postpone, saying he hadn’t done as much as he expected. I asked him to consider sharing his actual experience, not a romanticized version of it. This podcast isn’t supposed to say changing your beliefs and habits is easy, but to recount how it happens. I believe that when people act for personal reasons, even if it’s hard

Change can be hard even for people who speak and coach change. So I commend Caspar on sharing openly, even what likely made him feel vulnerable, but it was valuable to others. It’s also what leaders do.

What Caspar shared with his son, I found touching. His son had been sharing with him for longer than he knew. This experience opened him to connecting with his son.

I hope listeners are seeing that people care deeply on the environment and are acting more all the time. People who act today become leaders because everyone who wants clean air, land, and water wants to follow. The longer you wait, the less connected with this community of leaders you are. Also the more dirty your air, land, and water.

Acting on your environmental values builds community, especially with family, the closer they are the more to bond on, assuming they like clean air, land, and water. Episode 2 is coming up.

Caspar leads a fulfilling life and helps people do the same.

What’s his expertise? How has he found purpose more than others? Why do corporations book him to help them with morale?

He sailed around the world with his family. He lived a comfortable corporate life. He didn’t have to do something out of the mainstream and independent.

It forced them to figure out their narrative and purpose. Since most people don’t challenge themselves that way, they don’t learn about themselves so much. Were his choices easy? No, he had to figure it out by acting, no different than anyone else.

His leaving the corporate world made him more valuable for the corporate world. Anyone can do it. Few do.

It’s like environmental leadership. Anyone can do it. Few do. The opportunities are global. Billions demand it.

Caspar and his family show how much joy, community, personal growth, meaning, and purpose can come from acting on your values.

Regular listeners may have picked up my trend toward sailing and sailors. My avoiding flying has led me into a wonderful community and amazing experiences.

Education

As a professor and having earned a PhD, education is a longtime interest, especially experiential and self-directed learning.

Caspar and I talked about educating children outside the regular system, through curiosity. It turns out kids learned more when starting with what interested them.

Like what motivates people to act environmentally or any type of following: telling people what to do doesn’t work as well as asking their interests.

I hope you hear from him to change things on the scale in your life as he did in his. He’s no more or less human than anyone else.