Friend and podcaster Jim Harshaw Junior posted our conversation on Initiative to his Success Through Failure podcast.

Jim and I have appeared on each other’s podcast twice each and met in person, so the conversation is friendly and open. I refer to his conversations on my podcast more than almost any other for his facing and overcoming his environmental challenge by involving his family in the process, bringing them closer.

Many people don’t act because they see others as potential problems. Jim does and teaches what leaders do: he sees others as part of the solution.

We cover my new book from several angles.

I also answered Jim’s trademark question on a failure I learned from, so you get to hear me share a vulnerability that was among the bleakest times of my life.

Listen to the episode.

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